What do u guys think that has to best chance at getting goty this year, now i know it's only september and the fall games have not came out yet, but i like to see what u guys think. To me, i think it's gonna come down to Fallout3 <<getting, and LBP. But i think in the end it will be Fallout3 that comes out on top because it has a gun that shoots teddy bears.

Any answer that's not Super Smash Bros Brawl is wrong.

Though, voting for No More Heroes is less wrongs than others.

Ok so im gonna ask, what is so great about SSBB? because i don't have a wii and i don't plan on getting a wii *lol wii lol*.

What games have releases set for this year?

Gears Of War 2

Call Of Duty: World At War

Guitar Hero: World Tour

And those are just the ones I'm interested in, personally.

IN MY OPINION, GTA IV isn't even close to game of the year. A game that has so much potential and wasted pretty much all of it, and I have a feeling, that the downloadable content will be nothing more than a few more mini-games and maybe a new hat for your online character. I want to be wrong, though. I mean, I bought my Xbox for this game, cripes.

I thoroughly enjoyed BF: Bad Company, I've had so much fun with it, so I guess thus far, that would be my pick. But I'm guessing Infinity Ward will pull it out again

Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Fable 2
Fallout 3
Dead Space
Left 4 Dead
FarCry2
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts
And those are a few that i can think of on xbox 360.

And i agree with u to a point about GTA4, yes im one of the people that think the game should not of got so many 10's "IGN, fucking retards" but i do think it is my game of the year SO FAR this year because nothing this year has yet to change my mind. And BF: BC was a good game. But i think when the fall games start to come out GTA4 will take a back seat to games like fallout3, gears 2, fable 2 and hell even left 4 dead looks badass.

EDIT: Yes 69 posts FTW lol

Ah well, have fun missing out on an incredible game (with numerous other fun games and a system that so much better playing with friends with than the other systems) all because you're all "lol wii lol*.

Then again, that could be said to more than just you.



It's fun because it's a game where you get to fight friends with characters that actually have different attacks and abilities (none of this "different fighting stance" stuff, fighting as Donkey Kong is completely different than fighting as ROB) and you get to fight friends. The controls are easy and it's friendly to those who're just learning the game or relatively new, but it still rewards those playing at the higher level. The Falls system brings a lot of interesting potential to matches and makes 4 character matches perfect, and levels are quite different from each other with certain environmental hazards in some. Smash Balls create interesting match ups as well. Unlike the previous games, the computer characters on the higher difficulty levels actually play with a strategy and are threats (rather than characters that spam certain smashes and roll-dodges in the previous 2 games).

Solo mode, basically Subspace, is actually a really fun (yet long, which kills some of it's replayability, for me at least) mode that responds to how you're playing and can be played as a two-player. It's a tribute to a lot of the old 2-D hack-n-slashes back in the day with a simple storyline.

Another fun thing is you can create levels for multiplayer play, which is just freaking cool. I've already made 24 levels and one of my friends has 40 (using memory cards) and making the levels is almost as fun as playing on them. Plus, all the music the game has is incredible, just a great score.



The only drawbacks/criticism I see is that it's not Street Fighter, which it never tries to be. It's a different 2-D fighter, and a much more enjoyable one for a large group of people. It's easily the fighting game of choice for kids around my age (both older and younger) and no party is right with out it.

I don't think SSBB is a legit contender. It's a good game, but to me it's just Melee with some new characters, levels, and an AWFUL online mode (which would be the only point to make a sequel to Melee in the first place). I also did not enjoy the 500 hour side scrolling subspace game and had to force myself to finish it. Seriously; did anyone in the world actually have fun playing the last maze level?

Everyone goes off about it being a "content rich" game, but most of that is made up of trophies, stickers, MIDI music. Brawl would have easily been my GOTY had they implemented a good online mode. As it stands now, it's basically just my replacement for Melee when people want to come over and play it, nothing to revolutionary.

That being said, I guess I don't really have a GOTY. The popular answer right now is GTA IV, but I personally doubt that it will be my favorite game by the end of the year and I don't think it is now. I would assume that if Fallout 3 lives up to the hype, that it will win most of the awards around the net. My personaly GOTY will probably be Left 4 Dead, but I am also really looking forward to Dead Space and Mirrors Edge.

I'll admit that the online mode isn't as good as it could be, but quite frankly I have very little problems with it. I'm actually really good playing against lag (when it rarely occurs thanks to one guy's connection) and the only real problem is that every "With anyone" game has to be 2 minute battles, which no one ever does normally. 3 man stock is where it's at (5 or 10 for those battles where you want it to last forever, but 3 man can last 10 minutes).

With Smash Balls, improved CPU AI, more levels/characters and numerous solo-stuff to do (plus online and stage builder), I can't see it just being Melee with new characters/levels/online mode. I'm such a different player with Brawl (thanks in part to ROB) and I love how with the Wii I can use any controller combination I want (I use just the Wii-mote now, most of my friends use the Classics or Gamecubes controllers though).

Subspace was fun the first time around, though the maze sucked (which is funny, because when I had to do it the second time, the maze was the only overly fun part of doing it all again). Thing is you don't have to do it again (I played it the first time on a friend's system), nor do you really have to do it at all, it's just a straight-foward way to unlock everyone.

My big problem is not how well it plays online, it's just so bare bones. There is no stat tracking and no W-L records. It's like Sakurai had no idea people played the game competitvly. I also found the stage creater to be way to limited to have fun with. Another thing that pissed me off was it was much harder to die; every character could get back to the physical level with relative ease.

It's still a good game, but seven years in the making and on superior hardware? Gears of War 2 is going to be only 2 years removed from it's predecessor and on the same hardware and it looks like a bigger step forward than Brawl was to Melee. I would not even say Brawl was my favorite Wii game this year. No More Hereos was very very technically unimpressive game with lots of bugs and had annoying in-between missions, but I still had a lot more fun with it than I did Brawl. It actually made me wish developers took a step back and asked themselves if their gameplay was even fun or not before going into polishing mode.

Ok hold on, i was not trying to be a asshole when i said that, i knew i should of said that in the post aswell. i was just asking what is so great about because i always hear that it's so great but i never heard why, thats all. And when i said " i don't plan on getting a wii" it's because i don't have the money nor the time to find one.

Psst the right anwser is TrackMania Nations Forever.

That Brawl, GTA IV, or Mercs 2: WIF.

If we're going for personal GotY, then almost none of the likely GotY candidates for the "award specials" qualify.

The likely candidates are GTAIV, Smash Bros, Metal Gear Solid 4. That's really it.

But these are the AAA titles, and really, the drop off from the big 3 candidates to the rest of the pack is huge.

Some fodder for the award shows that demand to have at least 5 nominees are Burnout: Paradise, GRID, No More Heroes, Chains of Olympus, Spore, Galactic Civilizations II: Twilight of the Arnor, The World Ends With You, and NHL 09.

Now if we're looking at downloadable GotY candidates, it's hard to see what can't win.

Braid, Bionic Commando: Rearmed, Rez HD, Metal Slug 3, Ikaruga, Geometry Wars 2, Castle Crashers, and N+...and that's just on the 360.

*lol wii lol*

I know it's been a slow year for the 360 so far, or even games period, thats why i said befor that gta4 so far is my GOTY because nothing has came out to top it. And about those arcade games that u listed, i have heard nothing but great things about all of them "castle crashers the most".

Somehow This game has gotten better, something i thought was impossible after 08. IF MADDEN SOMEHOW BEATS NHL 09 FOR SPORTS GAME OF THE YEAR ON LIKE ANY SITE, WELL THAT'S JUST A LOAD OF CRAP

Anyone who doesn't vote No More Heroes gets a JBL special.

This is a good discussion, fellows. I hereby declare it our Topic O' the Week. Keep talking about what 2008's likely Game of the Year has been or will be and we'll contact you to appear on the show and air your thoughts.

thanks jason. my first ever topic made gets topic O' the week... WOOT lol.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then, as I see more with and like the changes than you (and I love stage builder, i've already made a lot of levels from sports-logos to trap levels to anything. I've got a level for any kind of match-up, in fact multiple levels for any match-up).


For me I've never cared too much with actual win-loss record when playing because I only care how many times I get first and/or second. My friends care more about KO's (at least way more than I do, but my fighting style very rarely gains a lot of KO's.....I'm the Tennessee Titans of SSBB) and at the end one friend will let us know who won the most (which tends to be him).

I love the way the game has become. I don't find it so much easier for people to get back on levels now, but until Brawl I always played 5 stock and now I play 3 stock exclusively, so that may skew but I still don't find it easier. The Smash Balls, the different hammers, the statues, the CD's, all the fun things (except the Dragoons, but even then they're a fun new element)....all have added a unique twist to the game that is fun and causes you to have to pay attention to numerous things. If you don't want them, they're easy to be taken out. The camera being available for any game type is perfect too, because lets face it, the Picture mode from Melee was horrible and the best action pictures come from actual action, not 2-3 guys trying to stage something. I also love the how the new levels all have more relevant environmental effects that can affect your character, like Pokemon Stadium 2 or the spikes on the Donkey Kong scroller.



I saw the game being more of a change than Melee was (which literally was just the same game with new characters, new levels, a new solo mode (that wasn't even fun the first time as Subspace was) and a new Special attack with the B-Across). Brawl did it's best to eliminate the clones or at least do enough to separate them aside from "slight changes in stats". Ganondorf is no longer just a slower/stronger Captain Falcon, nor is Toon Link the fast/shorter range version of Link. Every character really does play differently now, which is the biggest plus I find with the game.

Stats in an online game is a deal breaker for me. Brawl's online not having it keeps it from being any sort of competitive a competitve experience and kills it's online replay value. I honestly can't remember an online game (not on the Wii) that did not keep stats of any kind. The fact that it also includes no voice chat or means of communication makes it gimped even when compared to the Dreamcast's online eight years ago (or a handheld like the DS).

Also, Brawl's changes to fighters is no different than any other fighting game in the last decade or so(or even patches within the game). It's expected that fighters will often play differently in seperate iterations. The improvements in Brawl are all for the better (minus the tedius SSE), but the fact that it's on a better system an released seven years after it's previous iteration, it makes the changes seem even more insignificant. A good online system was really all that was ever needed in a sequel to Melee and they gimped the hell out of it. That's what makes it a dissapointment for me. I would expect the changes Brawl had on a sequel released two or so years after the original on the Gamecube. That's why it underdelivers for me.

But yeah, I guess we will have to agree to disagree as the game is certianly not without it's share of loyal and satisfied fans.

I am as you would say a loyal and satisfied fan, but I'm not going to be an apologist (not saying you're calling me one, just putting it out there). I guess for me Online mode isn't that big for me. The ability to talk with friends would be great, but it's not a big need for me. In fact, it's probably better, because I've never found any online gaming experience to be better because of the annoying little brats out there that play Halo 3 or Call of Duty 4. Nothing tells me that it'd be different with Brawl. When playing games, if we really need to banter with each other within a game, we use Skype like we do already, but for the most part I enjoy using AIM and only talking between battles. That's just me, I know that, but it's still something that works well for me.

I understand what you're saying and agree, that to a point, that Online Mode and SSE were the only new changes that the game really needed to have, and both have their problems (SSE has absolutely no replay value, and you've already hit the points on the Online Mode) that can hurt the gaming experience. Yet for me, I just see the game overall as a major improvement and a big step forward with how they changed up the gameplay so much with the Trophies/Smash Balls/Dragoons/Camera with every mode/eliminating pure clones and the Stage Creator really is a positive for me. I'm not saying you're ignoring the gameplay changes, I'm just using them to weigh my opinion more than you are (which is fine, since Online mode was a bigger thing going in for you).

It's really way too early, I've only played through one of the 4 senario's all the way through and I still love SSBB.



But I'm really considering putting Left 4 Dead up there for my GotY. Jason is right, the hype of the game came almost solely from the awesome demo, but the game hasn't let me down as the AI Director is the biggest asshole in the world and makes a great game for it. As much fun as the demo was, having 2 tanks in succession in the sewers followed by a witch made for many great fun moments.

I want to say that my GOTY go's too Gears 2 . But i still gotta try afew more games that have came out (Cod : WAW, Dead space, Left 4 Dead).